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Restorative Agriculture's avatar

I was sent here to read this by my psychologist. I sought him out for some advice, about whether or not I was being unreasonable in my romantic relationship. I've been a human polygraph for the last 25+ years. I first remember having to pretend I didn't know what was going on in order to avoid conflict, when I was 10. Somewhere in my mid-twenties, I realized I had a gift that I couldn't explain, and started trying to figure out what the mechanism was that made me different. I had an abnormally good heart, in terms of blood pressure, resting heart rate, and cardio ability, so I thought maybe it was an interaction of the magnetic fields produced by our hearts. The heart, acting as a transceiver, with mine being physically more powerful. Regardless of whether my theory was correct, it didn't take me long to come to the conclusion that always knowing when you're being lied to, is very painful. I know everyone in my life better than they want to know themselves, and some of them hate me for it. My father suffered daily agony in his back and leg for 20 years, until I told him he had a pain syndrome and essentially hypnotized him out of it. He's been pain free for almost a decade, though we no longer speak. They feel exposed. And I don't know how Jung picked up on the fact that people would project themselves onto me, but that's ever present, and often to an outrageous degree. I am incredibly isolated, though reading all of this has given me hope that I may be able to find contentment. Despite all of this, if I could snap my fingers and have it go away, I'd say no and keep my curse.

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The Ferryman's avatar

John, your story touches the very core of what I tried to expose with Jung. It is the price of clarity: seeing what others don’t want to see, and how unbearable that becomes for those around you. The projections you describe, the isolation, and at the same time the awareness that you would never want to lose this gift – that is the paradox. You recognize the mechanisms Jung described, but you also live them in their rawest form.

Perhaps the only path to real contentment lies here: not explaining or softening anymore, but fully accepting that your knowing was never meant to be understood by the masses. It is a gift carried alone – and precisely because of that, so valuable.

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Susan OBrien's avatar

Seeing more wisely is a useful suggestion.

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The Ferryman's avatar

Indeed, that would make the world a much more pleasant place. Unfortunately, my writings are — remarkably and at the same time tellingly — avoided by the majority of professionals in the field of giftedness. And that is precisely why I write! Thank you for your comment.

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🔎 Giftedness isn’t about intelligence alone.

It is dangerous perception — seeing what others can’t. Those who carry it either break under the weight of it, or transform into what Jung called pioneers of consciousness.

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Katherine Oniusheva's avatar

Hello, I am looking for where these writings are exactly written. So far, the only findings are ALL AI. It is extremely frustrating. The videos in which I first encountered these writing were completely AI, the voice, the video itself, and now I am assuming, even the writings from which it was speaking, the script. And I have found written articles, such as this one, which are obviously compiled by AI, but none linking to the actual source written by Jung himself. I see that there are at least some quotes in this article, but precisely which books or writings are these quotes taken from? Furthermore, even the comments which respond to people on here are AI. I am not trying to blow your cover, I realize it is easier for everyone to just use AI to do all of the writing and work...but I really want to read the original writings.

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The Ferryman's avatar

It’s irrelevant whether a text was written by AI or by hand. You can’t measure awareness by its medium.

What matters is conscious intent — the frequency behind the words.

Calling something “AI” to dismiss it says more about our discomfort with not knowing than about the text itself.

That’s where discernment begins, not ends.

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Katherine Oniusheva's avatar

Also, this response you gave me is very vague and didn't answer the direct question and instead deflected. And also, you used AI to respond to me again. Can I talk to YOU?

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Katherine Oniusheva's avatar

Thank you for the AI response, however I need to know where these quotes and the entire premise comes from specifically so that I can read it myself. I am extremely interested in this topic and would love to know specifically which books or journals these come from. Typically, or at least in the past, when someone writes an article, they are happy to cite their sources, and I myself ensure to cite all sources so that people know I am not pulling my claims out of thin air. In psychology, my training highly emphasized the importance of citing materials and making sure that we read materials which have the direct citations before we believe what is said.

Furthermore, AI is prone to hallucinations, and all claims must be checked against the material to make sure that the claims are in fact true. I am not attacking you or your methods; these are all just facts and truths. I apologize for my direct nature, but I have a lot of experience with AI since my second degree is in Computer Science. With both degrees obviously being used in conjunction to work with AI, I am very familiar with these topics and understand how this works. I must have the truth, and I would greatly appreciate you pointing me in the direction of these exact texts which were written and published by Carl Jung himself because I would love to read them for personal reasons. It has nothing to do with proving you wrong.

I disagree that it is irrelevant whether something was written by AI or by hand considering the propensity for AI hallucinations, and also the fact that it is basically plagiarism. It is writing by a computer which is copied, pasted, and claimed to be someone else's, who in fact did no research most of the time and didn't make sure that the information is all intact. I am not claiming this is what you do specifically, but I know it is often the case, and we must be careful to preserve the truth. Thank you so much.

I have seen these same "paraphrasings" which are claiming to be written by Jung all over the internet and in YouTube videos, not one of which has directly cited the source or will give the source when asked. I would love to learn more about this phenomenon which Jung has apparently talked about but cannot seem to find the direct source. I was hoping, since you posted this article, that you would know and could kindly post a link or at least the name of a book and which area, chapter, etc. that these quotes or ideas are located. Really anything that I could work from.

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The Ferryman's avatar

I’m not quoting Jung, and I don’t agree with everything he wrote — but his work offers a strong lens to understand what’s unfolding now.

If you want to read his direct writings, I recommend The Red Book (Liber Novus) — Het Rode Boek in Dutch (ISBN 9789492421869), 581 pages of his own process notes compiled into one of his most revealing inner proces.

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Katherine Oniusheva's avatar

Sorry, I am really not trying to be annoying, but I keep searching and searching, and no one will give me direct answers. I just don't understand what is happening.

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Katherine Oniusheva's avatar

Is that where the quotes and the writings in this article are from? I have plenty of books by Jung. But I just want to know where the quotes and writings in this specific article are from so that I can read that one.

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Susan OBrien's avatar

Since when does the opinion of others change unavoidable perceptions? Or, the imperative to share impressions?

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The Ferryman's avatar

Exactly — opinions don’t touch what is inevitably perceived. But I write because leaving it unspoken would be a denial of what is clear. For the gifted, silence is not an option — it’s not obligation, but necessity. And the paradox is that precisely this directness, when spoken with respect and full attention, has helped many like-minded people. As a client told me recently: “It has never been said this direct and confrontational — and that’s why it finally made sense.”

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